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    Quote Originally Posted by jsvette View Post
    Agree. Also the "loud" sound was most probably normal WOT exhaust as it shifted. Of course, I am floored that a dealer would allow someone to do several WOT on a new C7 test drive. Remind me not to buy any cars from them
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    I copied this below text from a Ferrari site. (not disclosing which one, so Hopefully I'm not against the rules and policy here). Notice how other car enthusiasts love the aggressive rapid shifting and the sound it makes. This is similar, not exact, to how the Stingray's A8 performs.

    I had manual corvettes in the past, which I loved, but I'm very satisfied with the performance of this new auto/semi-auto Stingray.

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    I have driven the California with its instantaneous shifts and although impressive in its own right, I still prefer the Scuds more violent and visceral gear changes. I do hope you are right about Ferrari not refining the 458 so much that this "shotgun" blast is lost.

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    As far as the jolting shift is concerned, I do not object to a shotgun type sensation following the downshift of the transmission. What I think speaks for an inferior transmission design is when the transmission then up-shifts and it sounds like you hit a big hunk of metal with a sledgehammer. Not in a thousand years would I justify that design. I would expect nothing less than a refined transmission design with smooth up shifts. As I said, the SL55AMG I had did it perfect. The Corvette Engineers should aspire to that perfection, nothing less (don't try to explain an inferior design away as being exhilarating or cool!).

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    Let's see, it takes a $217,000 SL 65 AMG to almost match the $60,000 StingRay 0-60 time, both being automatics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCjr View Post
    Let's see, it takes a $217,000 SL 65 AMG to almost match the $60,000 StingRay 0-60 time, both being automatics.
    That is still no excuse for making a clunky transmission!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whillusa View Post
    I do not object to a shotgun type sensation following the downshift of the transmission.
    I am not sure what you mean by that. A shotgun would push you backwards. A downshift could cause you to feel yourself moving forward with respect to the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdslon01 View Post
    I am not sure what you mean by that. A shotgun would push you backwards. A downshift could cause you to feel yourself moving forward with respect to the car.
    I am talking about the initial surge immediately following the downshift after fully depressing the gas pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whillusa View Post
    I am talking about the initial surge immediately following the downshift after fully depressing the gas pedal.
    I am not following- why would you go WOT immediately after downshifting? The normal reason to downshift is to allow the engine to engine brake the car and/or shift the weight distribution in a turn for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsvette View Post
    I am not following- why would you go WOT immediately after downshifting? The normal reason to downshift is to allow the engine to engine brake the car and/or shift the weight distribution in a turn for example.
    There are more reasons to downshift than that JS. In my M7, I downshift and go WOT to launch the car into warp speed lol

    Depending on the RPMs I'm traveling in, I may drop 2 gears and disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbrito View Post
    There are more reasons to downshift than that JS. In my M7, I downshift and go WOT to launch the car into warp speed lol

    Depending on the RPMs I'm traveling in, I may drop 2 gears and disappear.
    OK, did not think of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsvette View Post
    I am not following- why would you go WOT immediately after downshifting? The normal reason to downshift is to allow the engine to engine brake the car and/or shift the weight distribution in a turn for example.
    I am NOT downshifting. The transmission is right after I punched the gas (WOT). That initial surge than is smooth. But when the trans then shifts up into the next higher gear, still at WOT, that is exactly the point where the transmission produces this incredible clunk.

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    Perhaps there is an issue with yours, for not hearing that extremely pronounced on all A8's? What mode do you have it in, for as you know, the quickness of the shifting increases from tour to sport to track -- and am guessing that so does the sound of that change increase as you move to sport, and more when to track?

    Perhaps related, when fairly late in the development of the C6, and then Chief Engineer Dave Hill was in the process of working on the C6, he met with a large focus group of Corvette owners and asked them this question, "would you rather I take out the drive link shifting clunk and or give you an extra 10 HP," the answer in the room was unanimous, "we want the 10 HP!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by whillusa View Post
    I am talking about the initial surge immediately following the downshift after fully depressing the gas pedal.
    Ah, I got it. I thought you were talking about a downshift while braking; however, you meant a downshift when punching the gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elegant View Post
    Perhaps related, when fairly late in the development of the C6, and then Chief Engineer Dave Hill was in the process of working on the C6, he met with a large focus group of Corvette owners and asked them this question, "would you rather I take out the drive link shifting clunk and or give you an extra 10 HP," the answer in the room was unanimous, "we want the 10 HP!"
    I think some people new to Corvette would look at that and say, "That is exactly the problem, not the answer."

    Let's face it: Corvette people are always going to be Corvette people. For new converts for the future, GM needs to think what should be provided to win them over, not what to provide that the already-existing loyalists prefer.

    If you think about that for a while, John, I hope you eventually can agree with me. I know you have said in the past that you want Corvette to do what is necessary (continual change/improvement) to provide for a possible future where the C10 can not only exist, but thrive.
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    Wow. How perfect that this post from joemessman is on another thread that I just read which precisely makes my point above. What does he like best about the car? It isn't the HP, it is the...

    Quote Originally Posted by joemessman View Post
    As far as reliability, what really impressed me, and I'm not kidding, is that there was not one rattle in the car. It is the first car I have ever purchased that did not have at least a rattle or two. And when I first drove my wife wondered why we waited so long. I couldn't go back to another vehicle in this class or even higher.
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