[speedracer1]

I have the competition seat and I plan to run harnesses. Anyone have recommendations?
Thanks
Mike

 

[jsvette]

Mike check out our supporting sponsor's harness https://localmotors.com/shop/c7-corvette-racing-harness-bar/?utm_source=stingrayforums.com&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=128x28&utm_campaign=harness1

 

[speedracer1]

Thanks JSvette- that setup looks like the ticket.

 

[jsvette]

Great. If you get them post some pictures

 

[spaceaholic]

Its not clear how the Local Motors bar supports a 4 or 5 point harness? How are the lower harness strap's integrated into the vehicle?

 

[jsvette]

Its not clear how the Local Motors bar supports a 4 or 5 point harness? How are the lower harness strap's integrated into the vehicle?

Please contact them directly and bring us up to date.

 

[speedracer1]

I'm curious how to mount a sub-harness strap with the competition seats.

 

[droideka]

does the B-pillar in the C7 have enough structural rigidity to be considered a roll bar? most people, myself included, will tell you NOT to run harnesses in a car not equipped with a legit roll bar since they will lock you in the seat upright and not allow for any movement of your torso should you find the roof collapsing in on you. a standard three-point belt does allow you to collapse your body should the roof cave in on you in a catastrophic (read: on-track) crash scenario.

if the B-pillar is in fact considered crash and roll-worthy, then carry on.

 

[akpancake]

does the B-pillar in the C7 have enough structural rigidity to be considered a roll bar? most people, myself included, will tell you NOT to run harnesses in a car not equipped with a legit roll bar since they will lock you in the seat upright and not allow for any movement of your torso should you find the roof collapsing in on you. a standard three-point belt does allow you to collapse your body should the roof cave in on you in a catastrophic (read: on-track) crash scenario.

if the B-pillar is in fact considered crash and roll-worthy, then carry on.

It is not recognized by SFI, so it's non-compliant with most sanctioning bodies.

 

[jsvette]

I'm curious how to mount a sub-harness strap with the competition seats.

The supporting vendor, Loco Motors has a how-to video: a video walk thru of the installation process for the C7 Harness Bar http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/stingray-how-s-guides/3074-howto-installing-local-motors-c7-harness-bar.html
I would suggest if you have further questions, email them.

 

[speedracer1]

Good news and bad news. The LM harness bar and Schroth harnesses look great.
BUT- now that I have the stock seat belts removed, I can't seem to be able to get rid of the airbag service light. Any suggestions?
Mike

 

[jsvette]

Good news and bad news. The LM harness bar and Schroth harnesses look great.
BUT- now that I have the stock seat belts removed, I can't seem to be able to get rid of the airbag service light. Any suggestions?
Mike

They certainly do look great and functional! As I recall from the installation Mike wasn't there a connection you had to take off that went to the OEM seat belt retractor? Perhaps that needs to have a shunt in the connector if it doesn't at this point. Another possibility would be the sensor for the OEM lap belt.

 

[FormulaRedline]

most people, myself included, will tell you NOT to run harnesses in a car not equipped with a legit roll bar since they will lock you in the seat upright and not allow for any movement of your torso should you find the roof collapsing in on you.

This.

To be clear to anyone else that happens upon this thread, 4pt belts and no roll bar is NOT a safety modification, probably just the opposite. To do it (safety) right, get a roll bar and a 5 or 6 point harness along with a compatible seat (e.g. not one from GM) that allows for the lower straps. Keep in mind that in the pictures above, speedracer1 is using Schroth belts with their ASM (Anti-SubMarining) technology. That yellow patch on the shoulders expands in an impact, allowing the belt to work like a traditional 3pt and the person's torso to twist.

 

[speedracer1]

Yes- this particular harness is the only one I'd consider to mimic stock seat belt functionality, while adding the upside of minimized body movement during spirited track driving. IF I were modifying in order to increase safety, I would do a rollbar and harness combo.
I'm mostly interested in determining how to have the airbags continue to function with stock belts removed.

 

[rdslon01]

Yes- this particular harness is the only one I'd consider to mimic stock seat belt functionality, while adding the upside of minimized body movement during spirited track driving. IF I were modifying in order to increase safety, I would do a rollbar and harness combo.
I'm mostly interested in determining how to have the airbags continue to function with stock belts removed.

Okay, I am going to ask something foolish: why not take the original buckle off the belt you removed from the car, put it in the still-present seat belt receptacle, and then push the whole receptacle down beside the seat and out of sight? Would that work?

 

[speedracer1]

Rodney
I believe it is because there is a wiring connector at the seat belt retractor that must be disconnected to remove that portion of the belt for the harness bar install.

 

[droideka]

Yes- this particular harness is the only one I'd consider to mimic stock seat belt functionality, while adding the upside of minimized body movement during spirited track driving. IF I were modifying in order to increase safety, I would do a rollbar and harness combo.
I'm mostly interested in determining how to have the airbags continue to function with stock belts removed.

where did you install the lap belt? at the stock seat mounts to the floor pan, or drill new holes?

BTW, looks great, but i just couldn't get anybody on board with strapping in like that to ride around town. wish they came up with a slightly better solution that retained the stock belts.

 

[speedracer1]

Driodeka- I used the rear stock seat mounts. Yes- the wife has already commented unfavorably regarding using the harness around town. This car will get little town driving. Local Motors informed me today that they have a new mount plate that will allow the stock seat belt to remain and function normally. That is the solution that will make many of us happy!

 

[StealthZ06]

So speedracer1, how has that set up worked out for you. Bump!

 

[Steven Bell]

I'm not sure about a 4 or 5-point harness, but I REALLY want some red seatbelts. Where can I get those?