Audio gear question.
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Interfacing products have always been available from almost all the car audio manufactures ( Audison, Audio control some of my favorites) , Custom made enclosures such as Stealth boxes from JL Audio, MTX and Q-logic have yet to announce one. Most likely see them next CES in Vegas.
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My recommendation to GM: Dump Bose, they suck! Why not collaborate with a company that's a bit more upscale in quality, like Lexicon, Alpine, Rockford Fosgate, JL Audio, MTX or the multitude of other companies that put emphasis in sound quality rather than gadgetry and bling. This should be a pre-requisite for any manufacturer who truly believes they are producing the best possible product that they can.
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Easy...
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Can you quantify why you do not like Bose? Maybe suggest links that explain the problem with them?
Just simply saying this does not make you sound educated about the issue but rather opinionated and lacking in any true knowledge.
Just simply saying this does not make you sound educated about the issue but rather opinionated and lacking in any true knowledge.
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I'm not a fan of Bose either but they are better than most other systems I've ever had in a car. The Harman Kardon I had in my BMW was the nicest system that ever came with a car I purchased. Having said that, the Bose system doesn't bother me. If I was willing to pay over $1k to get my car detailed and treated, dropping some dough on some additional sound equipment won't stress me out.
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I personally am a big Bose fan. Why is that the case? I think I may be just a little bit biased.
Back when I was in school, one of my electrical engineering professors (from whom I not only took classes, but also asked to serve as a committee member for both my doctoral candidacy examination as well as my Ph.D. dissertation defense) was someone who, a decade before I was even born, studied with both Y. W. Lee and Amar G. Bose while he was at MIT. He always spoke very fondly of Professor Bose, and his time at MIT.All due respect I'm a huge Bose fan. The best STOCK car audio I ever heard.
While I'm not sure of your credentials I've been a musician/record producer for 40 years. Have spent many hours in the recording studio. Have had top ten records as a player and a producer.
When I want to preview a new release I sometimes play it in my car.
Friends that are also in the music business are also amazed.
If you can tell me what's better i will give it a listen.
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Very we'll said.
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I, in my opinion, Think the Bose system is lacking in crispness, meaning the highs are lacking in frequency response, as well as the bass, and mid-bass, there are no sharp edges to it, as if they have been filtered out. I have had stock systems in cars that have had a better quality sound, i.e. Lexicon, in a Genesis, and a Rolls Royce. The Alpine system that Lamborghini used to use years ago had better frequency range and individual component speakers. I mean no disrespect to Amar Bose (god rest his soul) but, I wish the company would concentrate more into sound quality than glitz.
Frankie, as you must know, most recording studios try to dial a flat sound to the recordings, this is why many studio's speaker of choice was a Yamaha NS-10, as if your recording was tweaked to sound good on those monitors, it would sound great on the average stereo system. To some I guess the Bose system in the C7 may be a huge leap from a Delco-Moraine system, yet is not to some of us.
Frankie, as you must know, most recording studios try to dial a flat sound to the recordings, this is why many studio's speaker of choice was a Yamaha NS-10, as if your recording was tweaked to sound good on those monitors, it would sound great on the average stereo system. To some I guess the Bose system in the C7 may be a huge leap from a Delco-Moraine system, yet is not to some of us.
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That's what I did, added an amplifier, and a quality subwoofer, and it made the system sound a lot better, next I will be switching out individual speaker components to try and add some crispness and clarity to it. The Bose amplifiers are really proprietary, even the addition of the sub-amp. was a really fun task.
Actually in the studio after the first or second mix I like to use two small speakers to really get a feel of where highs and lows especially drum track versus vocal track really are.
Speakers in the studio are inconsequential.
It starts with the musician. Just finished a session with Eddie Gomez. Bill Evans, Miles Davis bass player. Great player...
Used a pickup on his upright. Great bass sound unique only to Eddie.
Studios are key.
Did the Gomez record here in Chicago.
Usually do the mastering in New York.
Like to do the rock stuff in LA.
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I certainly hope the systems in the cars you mentioned are crisper cleaner and better. They better be!
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Speakers in the studio are inconsequential.
It starts with the musician. Just finished a session with Eddie Gomez. Bill Evans, Miles Davis bass player. Great player...
Used a pickup on his upright. Great bass sound unique only to Eddie.
Studios are key.
Did the Gomez record here in Chicago.
Usually do the mastering in New York.
Like to do the rock stuff in LA.
By the way
I certainly hope the systems in the cars you mentioned are crisper cleaner and better. They better be!
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Like most us, I not a music professional. But I have had several Bose systems in cars and at home. I have also had other systems and Bose is up there with the best of them. Every person has there own taste for for food and sound. I personal like the Bose system. It could more intuitive to operate but if you adjust the highs, mid, and base as well as the position of the sound, the system is great.
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The Hyundai Genesis Lexicon system has, hands down, the cleanest, crispest, broadest defined system I have ever heard in any production vehicle. And who would have thought that Hyundai would have incorporated that system into one of their vehicles?
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it was like sitting in a private performance of an orchestra, this was in my son's 2009 Genesis. I was flat blown away. it was a full surround THX system as well, I don't know if they continued carrying the Lexicon system or changed to something different in the subsequent years.
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this was a review from back then on it.
Stereo Evaluation
How does it sound: B+
Overall sound quality is excellent even though the Lexicon system offers only two-channel capability, and proved to be far beyond anything we've heard in previous Hyundai vehicles. While the Infiniti system of the Hyundai Azera is good, this Lexicon audio system takes it to the next level with a truly premium sound that includes deep, well-defined bass and precise, clear highs that don't squeak or hiss. From overproduced Sarah Brightman tracks to the quirkiness of The National and even the delicate precision of Yo La Tengo, it all sounds good.
This 14-speaker system is optional but isn't the top-of-the-line system. Opt for the Technology Package and you'll get a 17-speaker Lexicon stereo with the ability to play DVD-audio discs through 7.1 sound architecture. The middle upgrade gets you seven extra speakers compared to the base setup and adds a DSP feature. The faux surround sound is OK, but it really messes up tracks where the original production included a lot of reverb, especially on vocals. The Cars are a good example of the kind of music that just doesn't work with DSP. The equalizer settings for musical genres like rock, pop and classical are more gimmick than useful, but a few do occasionally enhance the listening experience.
The one My son had was the 17 speaker system, you turned the system on and it even had the "THX test sound" and the THX image on screen. while the review doesn't bolster it much, the actual sound quality is astounding. and out of a Hyundai!
Stereo Evaluation
How does it sound: B+
Overall sound quality is excellent even though the Lexicon system offers only two-channel capability, and proved to be far beyond anything we've heard in previous Hyundai vehicles. While the Infiniti system of the Hyundai Azera is good, this Lexicon audio system takes it to the next level with a truly premium sound that includes deep, well-defined bass and precise, clear highs that don't squeak or hiss. From overproduced Sarah Brightman tracks to the quirkiness of The National and even the delicate precision of Yo La Tengo, it all sounds good.
This 14-speaker system is optional but isn't the top-of-the-line system. Opt for the Technology Package and you'll get a 17-speaker Lexicon stereo with the ability to play DVD-audio discs through 7.1 sound architecture. The middle upgrade gets you seven extra speakers compared to the base setup and adds a DSP feature. The faux surround sound is OK, but it really messes up tracks where the original production included a lot of reverb, especially on vocals. The Cars are a good example of the kind of music that just doesn't work with DSP. The equalizer settings for musical genres like rock, pop and classical are more gimmick than useful, but a few do occasionally enhance the listening experience.
The one My son had was the 17 speaker system, you turned the system on and it even had the "THX test sound" and the THX image on screen. while the review doesn't bolster it much, the actual sound quality is astounding. and out of a Hyundai!
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