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So, I wait until the Supplier program is enabled to place my order and decide to order a 2014 because I want Cyber Gray. Today Dave @ Kerbeck announces on another forum that this weeks orders are the last week Cyber Gray will be orderable. Well, my order is at 1100 but Les Stanford expects to get it allocated this week but as usual nothing is guaranteed when dealing with GM.

So, if I don't get on this weeks allocation do I change colors or push it out to 2015 and do tiger shark gray? f'ng GM.


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So, I wait until the Supplier program is enabled to place my order and decide to order a 2014 because I want Cyber Gray. Today Dave @ Kerbeck announces on another forum that this weeks orders are the last week Cyber Gray will be orderable. Well, my order is at 1100 but Les Stanford expects to get it allocated this week but as usual nothing is guaranteed when dealing with GM.

So, if I don't get on this weeks allocation do I change colors or push it out to 2015 and do tiger shark gray? f'ng GM.
This is commonly referred to as a 1st World Problem (TM), unlike the 3rd world problems that most people on the planet have to deal with.

But, to answer your question, go with TSG.
 

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But I don't want to wait until September ;)

And you're right, in the grand scheme of things it's not that big a deal but honestly, isn't everything on this site a 1st world problem?


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Glen if I had to do it all over again it would be AW hands down. Never had a chance to see the cars other than in very preliminary photos! When I went to the museum and saw the AW with black wheels and black top on the floor I couldn't believe my eyes! But if you lean towards CGM and can't get it get the Tiger Shark! Best of luck.


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Actually I'm leaning towards Blade Silver if I can't get a Cyber Gray. Assuming I don't wait till 2015. I'll know more Thursday when the dealer confirms allocation and assignment.


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He's Mark - not glen, although we see things pretty much the same...LOL

blade silver would be my choice too as you can do a huge amount of mods and get a nice match no matter which direction you go in.......
 

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This is commonly referred to as a 1st World Problem (TM), unlike the 3rd world problems that most people on the planet have to deal with.

But, to answer your question, go with TSG.
My 1st choice was Cyber Gray but whan I saw the TSG (Pictures only)Hope to see in real life this weekend and then you add the A8 and the PDR the 2015 was for ME. now the wait does S...
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Use the Chevrolet web site to search dealer inventories. Build you car and at the end page there's a pull down in the top right for searching inventories. Before you start write down a load of zip codes for cities at least 50 miles apart and keep updating until you find one. i did a quickie and found a cyber grey at Phil Smith Chevrolet in Lauderhill, FL and Ross Downing in Hammond, LA out here by me has one also. Only you know what options you need. Good luck.
 

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Mark.
Use the Chevrolet web site to search dealer inventories. Build you car and at the end page there's a pull down in the top right for searching inventories. Before you start write down a load of zip codes for cities at least 50 miles apart and keep updating until you find one. i did a quickie and found a cyber grey at Phil Smith Chevrolet in Lauderhill, FL and Ross Downing in Hammond, LA out here by me has one also. Only you know what options you need. Good luck.
The kicker is I will only buy the car if the dealer honors my supplier program and most won't yet. I'm with the 3rd largest allocation dealer in the country and the only large allocation dealer that honors the supplier program so I'm giving them the benefit off the doubt that they will get it accepted this week.

BTW, I've searched inventory and have yet to find one with the options I want, most are over optioned. Just like I refuse to pay MSRP when I qualify for Supplier pricing I also refuse to buy options I don't want or do without options I demand. I'm just funny that way ;)


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Actually I'm leaning towards Blade Silver if I can't get a Cyber Gray. Assuming I don't wait till 2015. I'll know more Thursday when the dealer confirms allocation and assignment.


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Love my blade silver. It gleams! The darkness of the transparent roof is a great contrast to the silver as well as all the other dark trim on the car. BTW no orange peel or paint issues with mine which seems to be a problem with some new C7s. Not sure how much the paint issues are color related.
 

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My dealer says the GM district manager was in the store today and said all orders in the system with a POD number (order number, mine is RRRT70) will be built as well as all orders entered by this Friday. After that the CBV color code will be blocked in the Workbench system. He said even though I'm still at 1100 the district manager confirmed it will get built in Cyber Gray since the dealership has plenty of allocation. Apparently GM looked at the orders in the system (1100 and above) and based the cutoff date on that data, not orders already accepted for production (status 2000+).

We will see. The 2 weeks with No US allocation caught me and a number of others out, I may not go 2000 till next week's cycle. That still gets me built the 1st week of June which is pretty much exactly the time frame Dennis quoted me when he booked the order March 28th.
 
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so what wheels you mounting, mark?

crays going on in 60 days on mine...
The plan now is to find someone who can do a Hyper Silver or Hyper Black refinish of the factory Z51 wheels. I need to talk with the guys at CCW right down the road to see who does their finishing. In the pictures it's hard to tell the difference so I'm hoping they have samples at the factory here in Holly Hill.

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I know there's another thread on CG availability but since this is a thread about my experiences navigating this I figured it was the best place to post it.

After having a long conversation with my salesman as well as some email conversations with other dealers I believe I know what the process is for those who have ordered Cyber Gray. I also have a bit more insight into the ordering and allocation system which helps understand how your car may, or may not get built in Cyber Gray.

Whether your order needs to be in Status 1100 or Status 2000 actually depends on which dealer you are placing your order with. Actually, what really matters is what the dealer's order bank looks like. Let me explain.

In this example let's look at 2 high volume dealers, one with more Retail Sold orders in their order bank than can be filled with this week's allocation and one without. Forgetting about the Cyber Gray issue lets just consider how the system pulls orders for production.

The dealer with more allocation than sold orders will add Retail Stock orders to their order bank to get full use of their allocation, if they choose to do that and most do. The dealer with more retail sold orders won't necessarily add Retail Stock orders unless constraints mean they would have allocation left over after all Sold orders that aren't constrained are assigned.

The GM system automatically matches orders in their order bank with their weekly allocation based on priority, Sold orders take priority over Stock orders at the dealer level. When that happens is unclear, my dealer's salesmen see that report on Friday, other people quote Tuesday which I expect is when it becomes final. At that point, the order manager at the dealership can modify their orders up until Saturday afternoon (not entire clear on the deadline) to move orders in or out based on specific needs.

Basically the system matches orders to allocation and if the dealership does nothing, a certain number of status 1100 orders automatically get pulled on Tuesday based on that automation. The dealer doesn't have to match orders to allocation, they only have to manipulate what the system does automatically if they want to re-prioritize certain orders OR if they need to add orders to take advantage of excess allocation. The assignments are done on a priority basis where the type of order and the order entry date carry the most weight. That priority is then beat against constraints and the output is what the dealer sees.

So, back to the issue of Cyber Gray.

For dealers with more allocation than Retail Sold orders in their order bank all Cyber Gray orders would need to be assigned to allocation this week and move to 2000. No other Cyber Gray cars would be moved to production from that dealer.

For dealers with more Retail Sold orders in the system than they have allocation for this week, all Retail Sold orders, whether moving to 2000 this week or staying at 1100 will be moved to production as allocation allows over the next few weeks and retain Cyber Gray.

For all dealers, any Retail Stock orders with Cyber Gray that are not moved to 2000 this week go away.

Literally, as I was typing this, I received an email from my dealer confirming my order has moved to 2000 so I'm in and will get Cyber Gray. :cool: :cool: :cool:

I hope this helps people understand a little. At this point, if you don't have an order in and accepted by a dealer and have an order code then the only way you will get a Cyber Gray is to get an order in with a dealer that has open allocation TODAY or hunt for on in stock now or in the future.
 
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Let me add some more information here that seems to contradict some of the allocation assignment stories floating around.

In multiple place here and on other forums the ordering / allocation process is described like this:

1. Thursday - model constraint reports are made available to dealers along with allocation reports
2. Saturday - all adjustments to the weekly allocations must be entered and saved in the GM system
3. Monday night / Tuesday morning - GM pulls orders and sets status on those pulled orders to 2000

So, if that's how it's supposed to work can anyone explain how my order was at 1100 on Thursday, confirmed through GM Customer Service, but at 2000 on Friday, again, confirmed by GM Customer Service?


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Let me add some more information here that seems to contradict some of the allocation assignment stories floating around.

In multiple place here and on other forums the ordering / allocation process is described like this:

1. Thursday - model constraint reports are made available to dealers along with allocation reports
2. Saturday - all adjustments to the weekly allocations must be entered and saved in the GM system
3. Monday night / Tuesday morning - GM pulls orders and sets status on those pulled orders to 2000

So, if that's how it's supposed to work can anyone explain how my order was at 1100 on Thursday, confirmed through GM Customer Service, but at 2000 on Friday, again, confirmed by GM Customer Service?


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I have always believed the items #1) and #3) based on so many people saying it, and also experiencing it myself in the one case I personally know about (my wife's GM car).

I know #2 is not true. Well, what I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears was the guy at a local dealership frantically scrambling around on Monday afternoon to finalize his orders for the next day. "Sorry, I can't talk more than a second, I have to finish this NOW!"

I also know someone who got his order in on Monday and it was picked up the next day. At least, that is what he said happened.

So, what do we REALLY know to be true from your list above? I think we know #1) is true. I think #3) is true if we modify it to say, "Late Tuesday night in Detroit: GM has finished pulling orders for the week, and has set them to status 2000." I don't know how to fix #2).
 

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The plan now is to find someone who can do a Hyper Silver or Hyper Black refinish of the factory Z51 wheels. I need to talk with the guys at CCW right down the road to see who does their finishing. In the pictures it's hard to tell the difference so I'm hoping they have samples at the factory here in Holly Hill.

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I really like the way those look!
 

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I have always believed the items #1) and #3) based on so many people saying it, and also experiencing it myself in the one case I personally know about (my wife's GM car).

I know #2 is not true. Well, what I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears was the guy at a local dealership frantically scrambling around on Monday afternoon to finalize his orders for the next day. "Sorry, I can't talk more than a second, I have to finish this NOW!"

I also know someone who got his order in on Monday and it was picked up the next day. At least, that is what he said happened.

So, what do we REALLY know to be true from your list above? I think we know #1) is true. I think #3) is true if we modify it to say, "Late Tuesday night in Detroit: GM has finished pulling orders for the week, and has set them to status 2000." I don't know how to fix #2).
The interesting part isn't so much whether it's Saturday or Monday when the window closes but the fact my order went 2000 on a Friday, not a Tuesday. Maybe dealers can finalize whenever they want and some wait right up to the deadline while others with large order banks know exactly what they want Thursday evening.


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The interesting part isn't so much whether it's Saturday or Monday when the window closes but the fact my order went 2000 on a Friday, not a Tuesday. Maybe dealers can finalize whenever they want and some wait right up to the deadline while others with large order banks know exactly what they want Thursday evening.

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Then probably the window for when GM pulls orders to go to 2000 extends from Friday to Tuesday, instead of just Tuesday as we thought.
 
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