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Problems with 8 sp auto tran none shipped as of8/26

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My car has been setting at BG since8/13 all auto on hold. Can not get a answer from any one on what the real problem is. Any real information out there?
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Nothing is being taken for granted by the engineers. There is no upside for them to rush and only a disaster if they let something out the door not right. Their plan from the inception of the C7 was to have a World Class performer. That hasn't changed. Is the car going to be perfect is any car regardless of price. Feel assured this car is getting as much if not more attention then any car on the market. I couldn't be any happier with mine and I'm sure you will be too We all have are eyes on the prIze and so do they.
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This is All old "News" & none of it is necessary anymore, Dozens of A8s are on the Road! Therefore this thread s/b Closed! (IMO)
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Mike Mercury, I am K1XV. I bet that control head is going in the display area. One thing about Corvettes, a mag mount antenna won't stick. ;) and that radio that everyone had to send back was the Icom IC-775dsp. I finally bought one, but at the end of the production run.

Wonder if you could get the feed from the Performance Data Recorder, and put it on the air via amateur radio? It would be like auto racing on television.
but thats exactly why there's a 2 week QC hold at the beginning of each new MY. All cars are held during that 2 weeks (even the ones not needing it) so as to not rouse suspicion/doubt.

This partial realease of cars-built was a bone-headed move; though I doubt it was Tadges decision. Ya gotta remember that at those "meetings"... it's not just engineers. Accountants also attend, many holding a Tablet PC with a spreadsheet already displayed on the screen as they walk in.

:)
Well, I am an engineer (*), and I would have done exactly what Corvette did with holding the A8 longer.

(*) By the way, you are from Ohio, right? I got my Ph.D. from Ohio State and also used to live in Dublin when I was a student there. It's a small world. Go Buckeyes!
Nothing is being taken for granted by the engineers. There is no upside for them to rush and only a disaster if they let something out the door not right. Their plan from the inception of the C7 was to have a World Class performer. That hasn't changed.
What Tpalmst wrote is a more accurate view of what really occurs in product meetings. Finance, marketing and product management try to push the most aggressive schedules possible, and engineers (at least those of us who take a lot of pride in our work) want to do the best job possible, and not cut corners. Finance will want those invoiced ASAP. But they have no skin in the game: they will not be blamed if something goes wrong. Who will? It will either be design engineering, or operations (manufacturing), depending on the nature of the problem.

Finally, what is also lacking from the non-engineering folks in those meetings is that they cannot get their heads wrapped around the sheer number of unknowns in highly complex systems. "Didn't you do extensive testing?" "Yes, of course, but you didn't allow us to build as many prototypes as we needed to test more thoroughly. There are areas which needed to be tested on more samples, and we still, even today, cannot say with X% confidence level that the sample-to-sample variation will allow us to fall within a MTBF of Y months on Z% of the production population."

The closer you are to the complexity, the better you understand it, and realize just how easily things can get missed and go wrong.

I cannot speak for GM, but I can say with no question that in our organization, such a longer hold for the new parts would be lobbied for heavily by design engineering, and/or operations.
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This is All old "News" & none of it is necessary anymore, Dozens of A8s are on the Road! Therefore this thread s/b Closed! (IMO)
Closed???? do you own stock in GM ???

:)

the durability of the A8 has not been verified by the end user... yet.

And, I don't have mine yet; and it was built 17 days ago. Doesn't even show shipped (still at 4000). I am happy you have yours though.
This is All old "News" & none of it is necessary anymore, Dozens of A8s are on the Road! Therefore this thread s/b Closed! (IMO)
Given that they are now shipping, I think you are correct that this is ancient history and this thread has run its course.

In summary, I just wanted to say above that I support GM, and their engineers, and believe they have their customers' best interests at heart.
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Given that they are now shipping, I think you are correct that this is ancient history and this thread has run its course.

In summary, I just wanted to say above that I support GM, and their engineers, and believe they have their customers' best interests at heart.
I support them as well; have enjoyed my Corvettes over the years. But, blind faith is not good either.

The OP asked:
Problems with 8 sp auto tran none shipped as of 8/26.
the second part has been answered; they are now shipping.

The first part (asking if there's problems with the A8)
guys... that will take 3-5 years of real world usage before we'll know that answer. Keep your fingers crossed !

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Yes, you have a very valid point that the long-term reliability of the A8 will take years to prove. Time will tell the tale.

Cheers, Mike!
Closed???? do you own stock in GM ???

:)

the durability of the A8 has not been verified by the end user... yet.

And, I don't have mine yet; and it was built 17 days ago. Doesn't even show shipped (still at 4000). I am happy you have yours though.

Maybe I should take another look in my garage, as I haven't seen mine yet, do you know where it is, I'd like to find it. Who said I have mine? You must be assuming again, last time I looked I was at 4000!
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