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I agree with you until the last paragraph. From my own experience with two different cars that I owned. I had both stock beside a greenfilter with the stock box and with a Camara ss manual I had an increase of 25hp/28tq and on my stingray z51 manual i had an increase of 40hp and 47tq. This was verified on two different mustang dynos. I do have to say that found the best custom tuner out there.
did you have "before" tunes w/dyno runs? And I don't mean solely a "before" dyno run, but full dyno tune before the upgrade(s). It didn't read like that.

The only verifiable gain claim on an upgrade has to start out with the car already tuned to it's best. And aftermarket mfgrs are notoriously "slick" in never doing that "before" tune; they eagerly add HP to their gain claim - that isn't fully attributable their product alone.
 
Here's a short dyno comparison - another data point for consideration.
 
Best I could find yes. Sorry if I hurt your feelings in anyway.
Lol - no feelings hurt bud, just skeptical that an air filter alone (wo/tune) can give substantial gains. My understanding is that the C7 (base & Z51) uses the same air filter as the Z06, so it should flow plenty of air.

Still, I enjoy the bolt on mods myself, but I always wonder what performance if any I'm really getting.

I guess I need to find a local DynoJet. :cool:
 
did you have "before" tunes w/dyno runs? And I don't mean solely a "before" dyno run, but full dyno tune before the upgrade(s). It didn't read like that.

The only verifiable gain claim on an upgrade has to start out with the car already tuned to it's best. And aftermarket mfgrs are notoriously "slick" in never doing that "before" tune; they eagerly add HP to their gain claim - that isn't fully attributable their product alone.
I had the air filter installed before the tune. So by base run was done with the filter installed already yes
 
Lol - no feelings hurt bud, just skeptical that an air filter alone (wo/tune) can give substantial gains. My understanding is that the C7 (base & Z51) uses the same air filter as the Z06, so it should flow plenty of air.

Still, I enjoy the bolt on mods myself, but I always wonder what performance if any I'm really getting.

I guess I need to find a local DynoJet. :cool:
Never said it was from the filter. I had a custom tune done
 
40 hp increase solely due to an air filter change? Holy cow!
If 40 brake HP could be gained by a aircleaner GM would be glad to slap one on
Same thing by taking off a stock X pipe and replacing with another type costing $300 plus ( mine built for $40) , as it is most X-pipes are in the wrong place and only help change the sound where
correct placement ( closest to engine) would allow better exhaust pulses to clean out cylinders for next firing of the cylinder

Game played is tune the PCM then claim the aircleaner was the cause and use bogus chassis dyno results.
Though I like those with "Seat of the pants" they swear to test results :)

How interesting the same aircleaner, stock CAI and X pipe are used for the supercharged Z06 but somehow same parts are restricting LT1 performance :(
Add custom tuning LT4 raises HP to close to 700 HP so stock parts are just fine.

OP should just go back to that dyno shop and have them redo the runs correctly with verify the dyno is calibrated and correct for weather and elevation using the correct tranny gear
and PCM set for sport/performance mode.

I teach a performance tuning class at a college, using $100,000 new Mustang load bearing dyno that can support up to 2,000 HP and very seldom can one student properly setup the dyno and correction values
 
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i just found out from the tuning shop that hp is measured at wheel which i need to /0.85 to convert into bhp .. so first dyno run without tuning i got 351 whp (412bhp). after ecu tune now i have 384.5 whp (452bhp) :very_drunk:
what a relief ! i thought something went wrong
 
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