[Ret9580]

Throwing this out to the professional detailers out there. I plan on having Xpel applied to the front bumper, side mirrors and headlights and also plan on having the car detailed with CQuartz Finest. My question is.......CQuartz first and then the Xpel or vice versa?

 

[glen e]

The detailer will know, not sure why everyone asks this. Xpel wants you to put the xpel right on the paint per their instructions...and the vendor of cquartz says his stuff on top too.

 

[TKinAZ]

To get ready for my Stingray, I experimented on my husband's Audi A6 3.0 TDI. It's Xpel first and then Cquartz on top. Worked great on the Audi. Also, the clear bra installer had a client just before me who did the paint protection first. The film wouldn't stick. Big bummer for them.

Got the Xpel on the Stingray right away, but am waiting to finish accessorizing before doing Cquartz. Can't wait! The Audi is so much easier to clean, even the the Stingray is smaller.

Definitely worth doing. You'll love it. Enjoy.

 

[Ret9580]

To get ready for my Stingray, I experimented on my husband's Audi A6 3.0 TDI. It's Xpel first and then Cquartz on top. Worked great on the Audi. Also, the clear bra installer had a client just before me who did the paint protection first. The film wouldn't stick. Big bummer for them.

Got the Xpel on the Stingray right away, but am waiting to finish accessorizing before doing Cquartz. Can't wait! The Audi is so much easier to clean, even the the Stingray is smaller.

Definitely worth doing. You'll love it. Enjoy.

Sounds like Xpel first.........love that German Shephard! Beautiful dog!

 

[TexasFFchick]

To get ready for my Stingray, I experimented on my husband's Audi A6 3.0 TDI. It's Xpel first and then Cquartz on top. Worked great on the Audi. Also, the clear bra installer had a client just before me who did the paint protection first. The film wouldn't stick. Big bummer for them.

Got the Xpel on the Stingray right away, but am waiting to finish accessorizing before doing Cquartz. Can't wait! The Audi is so much easier to clean, even the the Stingray is smaller.

Definitely worth doing. You'll love it. Enjoy.

Why would you put CQuartz on top of XPEL? Isn't the purpose of XPEL to place a barrier between the paint and whatever comes in contact with the car? I would think that it would be a waste of money to apply the CQuartz? I was thinking about CQuartz too but now I have the entire car wrapped in XPEL. So many coatings and wraps..LOL

 

[TKinAZ]

I hear you! It does seem like a lot to do and it definitely costs a lot!

From what I got out of reading and talking before doing is this - I think of Xpel as a barrier to protect against rock chips. (We're in Arizona and it's murder on cars!) Then CQuartz is like a super wax job. The car releases dirt and beads nicely for an easier wash. I might be able to get a similar result with a regular wax, but then I'd have to keep reapplying it. I love a clean car and am good with washing, but don't enjoy the extra time on waxing.

I wasn't lucky enough to get the whole car wrapped, but I did a full nose on both. The slickness and shine on the Audi hood, which has both, as compared to the Stingray that just has Xpel, means the Stingray will get the double shot treatment too.

When the professionals see this thread, they can set us straight. But like I said, that's just how I understand it and my experience.

 

[rdslon01]

Why would you put CQuartz on top of XPEL? Isn't the purpose of XPEL to place a barrier between the paint and whatever comes in contact with the car? I would think that it would be a waste of money to apply the CQuartz? I was thinking about CQuartz too but now I have the entire car wrapped in XPEL. So many coatings and wraps..LOL

I have wondered about exactly the same things.

 

[rdslon01]

I hear you! It does seem like a lot to do and it definitely costs a lot!

From what I got out of reading and talking before doing is this - I think of Xpel as a barrier to protect against rock chips. (We're in Arizona and it's murder on cars!) Then CQuartz is like a super wax job. The car releases dirt and beads nicely for an easier wash. I might be able to get a similar result with a regular wax, but then I'd have to keep reapplying it. I love a clean car and am good with washing, but don't enjoy the extra time on waxing.

I wasn't lucky enough to get the whole car wrapped, but I did a full nose on both. The slickness and shine on the Audi hood, which has both, as compared to the Stingray that just has Xpel, means the Stingray will get the double shot treatment too.

When the professionals see this thread, they can set us straight. But like I said, that's just how I understand it and my experience.

Thank you for the detailed write-up of your personal experiences and observations!

 

[TKinAZ]

Thanks for the shout out for my baby boy! I'm a huge GSD fan and he's simply the best we've ever had. And now I've got the best car I've ever had too! Wow, I'm a lucky girl. ;o)

 

[ronkh]

Check page 9, on. I asked Corey and it was answered here

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/stingray-corvette-detailing/820-ask-professional-detailer-9.html

 

[glen e]

and straight from Xpel - 7th question down...

https://www.xpel.com/support/installation/faq.asp

 

[Ret9580]

Thanks Ronkh and Glen, I saw under FAQ's on the CQuartz site that they recommend the PPF (Xpel) before the CQuartz Finest.

 

[1KUIKC7]

Don't you need to get the paint corrected before you put the expel on?

 

[glen e]

Don't you need to get the paint corrected before you put the expel on?

no not really, not correction.....that's coatings you need to do that for, not films...but most will run a orbital with a finishing polish and clay it before application...

 

[rdslon01]

Don't you need to get the paint corrected before you put the expel on?

If you don't get it corrected first, you are not going to be able to get it corrected with the film on. So, correct it before, or don't correct it at all.

 

[vettethisout]

We have had 1. Cquartz Finest installed over XPEL Ultimate and 2. have had CQuartz Finest installed under XPEL Ultimate on numerous vehicles. First off - XPEL Ultimate will hide washing swirls, Second, some clients can not sleep at night knowing paint swirls are on their vehicles and so they have paint correction and CQuartz Finest applied. SO...whether the client wants CQuartz Finest over or under the film really depends on the client. Some opt for full paint correction, than XPEL Ultimate than CQuartz Finest. The only real reasons for installing over rather than under the film is 1. you do gain some hydrophobic sheeting on the film...we are not sure how long it lasts vs the painted surfaces.2. Installer of each product recommends. If the product is installed under the film we recommend all the edges be wrapped. Hope this helps.
Joe

 

[glen e]

We have had 1. Cquartz Finest installed over XPEL Ultimate and 2. have had CQuartz Finest installed under XPEL Ultimate on numerous vehicles. First off - XPEL Ultimate will hide washing swirls, Second, some clients can not sleep at night knowing paint swirls are on their vehicles and so they have paint correction and CQuartz Finest applied. SO...whether the client wants CQuartz Finest over or under the film really depends on the client. Some opt for full paint correction, than XPEL Ultimate than CQuartz Finest. The only real reasons for installing over rather than under the film is 1. you do gain some hydrophobic sheeting on the film...we are not sure how long it lasts vs the painted surfaces.2. Installer of each product recommends. If the product is installed under the film we recommend all the edges be wrapped. Hope this helps.
Joe

But what does XPEL say to do? I understand each installer may use it diff but the maker of the product Says nothing should go between the paint and XPEL....see their faq's listed above....

 

[MyfirstvetteC7]

Looking for a Detailer that would apply CQUARTZ Finest in Charleston WV area ?

 

[Concours.John]

Looking for a Detailer that would apply CQUARTZ Finest in Charleston WV area ?

Corey from Carpro(maker of finest) is a sponsor here in the ask a detailer thread. Here is the installer map.
http://www.cqfinest.com/where-to-buy.html