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As of now, GM has not informed its dealerships how they will allocate 2015 Z06 sales.


First, how many 2015 Z06's will GM produce? Per Harlan Charles, Corvette Product and Marketing Manager, GM is planning on making the same number of 2015 Z06's as they made during the "hay day" initial years of C6 Z06 sales, e.g. an average of 615 Z06's per month. Since the 2015 Z06 production year is going to be approximately six months long (Jan.- Aug., 2015), GM is therefore hoping to produce approximately 3,690, 2015 Z06's. However, just as with the slow initial rollout of the StingRay, it is probable that the Z06's initial-slower rollout would reduce this estimate slightly, say to approximately 3,500, 2015 Z06's.

More than a few folks have speculated that GM will use the last year of its high performance models as the sole basis for awarding 2015 Z06 allocations, specifically counting 2013, "427 convertible," Z06 and ZR1 sales. In that year, GM sold 3,505 of its high performance models, e.g, 2,552, "427 convertibles", 482 ZR1's and 471 Z06's (source: CorvetteBlogger). However, that data is backward looking, and will not reward those dealerships which had increasing 2014 StingRay sales compared to previous years. Secondly, the 2013 total of 13,466 Corvettes sales, was an anemic amount compared to the estimated 32,500+ StingRay sales this current year, thus conflicting with the usually-used business practice of choosing the most recent data/sales, as opposed to "old data," when making business decisions.

Nevertheless, if GM chooses to award Z06 allocations based the combined number of sales of model year 2013, 427 convertibles, Z06's and ZR1's, there is coincidentally just about that same amount of projected 2015 Z06's to be produced, i.e., GM's high-performance Corvette sales in 2013 (3,505 units) were almost identical to its projected 3,500, 2015 Z06's to be built. If this allocation model were used, it would be very simple for dealers to know their 2015 Z06 allocations by simply adding up their total number of 2013 high performance Corvettes sold.

There are another 2015 Z06 allocation model that could be used. That model is to only use 2014 Corvettes sales as the basis for 2015 Z06 allocations, and make that allocation be, similarly, strictly mathematically based. If GM were to allocate '15 Z06 allocations based purely on 2014 StingRay sales, this would mean that for every 10 StingRays a dealer sold, that dealer would receive one (1) 2015 Z06 allocation -- with 250 allocations "left over" to additionally reward award to top 2104 StingRay sales dealerships.

There is a another sub-variation to all of these models, one based on initial StingRay allocations going to just the top 900 Corvette dealerships. If this concept were again used, given the relative rarity of 2015 Z06's, perhaps GM's might only initially award allocations to just the top 300 (?) dealerships?

Certainly, there are other allocation models, including using a combined-hybrid of all above models.

Another question: When will GM tell its Corvette dealers their Z06 actual allocation? Again, "not known at this time." Most believing it will not be before this July, many predicting not until August, a few saying not until September.

What do you think will be the method GM uses to determine 2015 Z06 allocations? When do you think GM's will so inform its dealers?
 

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Good points on the possible allocation methodology.... it's certain the large top volume Corvette dealers will have leverage/preference since the 'numbers' is in their court. It's a good chance it may well be based on the overall no. of hi-po Corvettes sold last year... after all, the Z06 still falls in that hi-po category. I'm also estimating GM will inform dealers their respective allocations by the summer months (July is my drilled down guess).
 

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We have just learned the latest information GM has told its dealers about when to expect Z06 allocation amounts. Per the ever reliable Ken Fichtner,

"The 2015 Corvette Z06 is expected to arrive in dealerships early 2015. Ordering, allocation and pricing information will be provided to dealers in the second half of this year."

While neither of these pieces is new or surprising, it confirms that previous/recent statements that "dealers will be informed about 2015 allocations, and, if they have allocation, the first 2015 orders can be placed on June 26th," does NOT apply to the Z06.
 

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The customer should be able to place a deposited with GM, then tell GM what dealer they want to pick their z06 from. First come, first serve.
 

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About my order for the Z06 my dealer wrote this morning...

"Please note that the information I have is the latest but not final.

Currently GM states that the production date (tentative) 2015 Corvette model would be in the week of August 11 for Canada.

At this point, we know what our benefits and what GM models will put on the assembly line. We hope having news for order and allocation for your Z06 earlier.

I follow closely for you.";):cool::rolleyes:
 

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About my order for the Z06 my dealer wrote this morning... "Please note that the information I have is the latest but not final. Currently GM states that the production date (tentative) 2015 Corvette model would be in the week of August 11 for Canada. At this point, we know what our benefits and what GM models will put on the assembly line. We hope having news for order and allocation for your Z06 earlier. I follow closely for you.";):cool::rolleyes:
Exactly; you got that right, that your dealer is mixing apples and oranges. He/she is correct that StingRay production starts @ 6:12 AM, Monday, August 11th. However, I think your dealer is thinking that the Z06 is a StingRay; it is not, but is a separate Corvette line/model, with different allocation and production timelines than the StingRay.

Z06 production will start either late 2013 or early 2014, with GM promising first Z06 customer deliveries in "the first quarter of 2014."

Most believe that dealers will be given Z06 allocations mid-August and first dealers with Z06 specific allocation can place their Z06 order requests in either late August or September. However, none of those Z06 dates are confirmed by GM at this time.
 

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Z06 production will start either late 2013 or early 2014, with GM promising first Z06 customer deliveries in "the first quarter of 2014."
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John,

I think you mean 2014 and 2015, not 2013 and 2014.



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Boy, I hope so Mark. If not, I have totally missed the boat. Talk about a dollar short and a year late! :D
Yes, went on a short mental vacation. Thanks both of you for waking me up. Deliveries start, as you know, early '15. Thanks!
 

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More rumors, including one supported by a "tier two" dealer, that 2015 Z06 allocations will be based solely on the number of 6th generation ZR1's sold. This rumor is exactly that, a rumor, that makes no sense because only 471 ZR1's were sold in 2013, compared to the projected 3,500 '15 Z06's to be built. For this rumor to be correct, GM would have to base this allocation on all ZR1's built for 2013, 2012, 2011 and 2010 (leaving out just the first year, the 2009's). GM has never based allocation on how many Corvettes a dealer sold as far back as five model years.

Rumor = False!
 

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Well, it could be true based solely on 2013 ZR1s. For every 2013 ZR1 that a dealership sold, they could get 7 allocations of 2015 Z06.

However, that doesn't seem logical for multiple reasons.
 

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I like this concept. I have purchased many luxury and sport vehicles s over past 20 years and find the process a little frustrating. Also, it's a little dated to be honest. To play in the upper echelon of car sales, GM probably should consider how the customer experience is somewhat tainted by the process. I can's see BMW, Audi, Lexus and MB operating this way. The new Z06 is a phenomenal car but the purchasing process has been a little less than desirable from my perspective.
 

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I like this concept. I have purchased many luxury and sport vehicles s over past 20 years and find the process a little frustrating. Also, it's a little dated to be honest. To play in the upper echelon of car sales, GM probably should consider how the customer experience is somewhat tainted by the process. I can's see BMW, Audi, Lexus and MB operating this way. The new Z06 is a phenomenal car but the purchasing process has been a little less than desirable from my perspective.
I can't really say your wrong but...the Z06 purchasing process hasn't really started yet so we can only guess!?!?
 

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Some believe GM's allocation system is going to change. If it does change, we do not yet know how it will change, nor its consequences. However, even it were to change, do we not think that already being on a Z06 priority list on a dealer who currently has lots of allocation isn't going to be of help in getting you a 2015 Z06? Even in an unlikely, but extreme allocation change, it certainly will not hurt.

Personally, do not think the allocation system is going to change at all. If I am correct that it doesn't not change, we do have choices, and a methodology to insure we get a 2015 Z06.

We can go to a small Chevrolet dealer who has not much of a change to get us a 2015 Z06, and depending on demand, might or might not be able to get us even a 2016, or we can go to those dealers who lots of Corvette allocations, and get our 2015 Z06. It is, under the current system, not a surprise who will be getting the allocations for '15's -- just go to the top ten on the linked list and you are golden, or progressively go to a dealer lower down the list, with the lower down you go, the less "percentage chance" you get absolutely get a 2015 Z06.

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum...ngray-sales-dealers-first-quarter-2014-a.html

There are still some who believe that 2015 Z06 locations will be not based on 2014 StingRay sales, that instead that they will based on previous ZR1 sales. While I again don't believe that is true, even if it is true, your highest percentage chance of finding a dealer was sold lots of ZR1's, is to start at/near the top of the linked list of top dealers.

All of us on this forum now have the knowledge on how to get a 2015 Z06, and the decision making ability to realize that dream. Or, we can choose to not follow that knowledge, and just like this year, be very, very frustrated that getting our car took months and months and, for some already, being notified that they will not get you your Corvette this model year. With the 2015 Z06 production year already being shortened, and Z06 production capability being approximately 620 per month, compared to StingRay production capability being five times that at 3,100/month, the handwriting is on the wall, especially with the Corvette Production and Marketing Manager already warning, a year before assembly of Z06's start, that there will be production constraints.
 

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Elegant an interesting sidebar I discovered today is when speaking with a local SoCal dealer, he told me they are no longer doing courtesy deliveries because of all the customers going out of state. Yet I still noticed they were charging 10k above MSRP.

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John, from taking to a dealership General Manager, what I was told is that the allocation process is absolutely changing. Now exactly what will the change be? I can't bring myself to believe what I was told, because it is even worse than before. Therefore, I have kept my mouth shut on this for several weeks now. But I do believe that what he told me about an internal notification from GM is true, and there will be changes. I just hope he misunderstood what those exact changes will be, because most of us will not like what he said was communicated to him.
Sounds like one of those, "be careful what you ask for, because you might not like what you get," sort of things. I don't think the current allocation process is completely broken, just unknown and mis-understood by the average customer. I certainly did not know about it prior to joining this forum.
 

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Sounds like one of those, "be careful what you ask for, because you might not like what you get," sort of things. I don't think the current allocation process is completely broken, just unknown and mis-understood by the average customer. I certainly did not know about it prior to joining this forum.
True.
 

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Elegant an interesting sidebar I discovered today is when speaking with a local SoCal dealer, he told me they are no longer doing courtesy deliveries because of all the customers going out of state. Yet I still noticed they were charging 10k above MSRP.

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SOME dealers seem to have no concept that they are in the business of customer service and in a competitive world. So, they can't sell the car with the price jacked up $10,000 or more above their competitors so they will try to force people to buy from them if the customer wants local delivery? MANY potential customers will refuse to do business that way. I wouldn't buy a car, parts. or service from them. Why would anyone want to do business with someone who believes coercing a customer is an acceptable business practice? Imagine trying with to resolve an issue when something goes wrong with jerks like that. No thanks! I truly believe that if not immediately, certainly in the long run their business will suffer from such decisions.
 

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How about they limit it to dealers who sold '13 427 Convertibles. ;)
 

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SOME dealers seem to have no concept that they are in the business of customer service and in a competitive world. So, they can't sell the car with the price jacked up $10,000 or more above their competitors so they will try to force people to buy from them if the customer wants local delivery? MANY potential customers will refuse to do business that way. I wouldn't buy a car, parts. or service from them. Why would anyone want to do business with someone who believes coercing a customer is an acceptable business practice? Imagine trying with to resolve an issue when something goes wrong with jerks like that. No thanks! I truly believe that if not immediately, certainly in the long run their business will suffer from such decisions.
Yeah, you would think they would realize they can make more than twice as much money selling 5 cars at a 8k profit each instead of just one at 18k profit (I'm just throwing numbers out there, but you get my point).
 
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